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Not to push the point further, I'm actually on the side of folks who are happy using older versions as I myself was exactly that person and stayed with 8.5 through the whole X series debacle. So I'm just saying this to be supportive and also encourage people to take the actual small amount of time it will take to learn how the new versions differ. It's a lot easier than you think if you just take certain steps.As I said I stayed with 8.5 and so when I finally ended up with X3e I fired it up and nothing was right!

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It was all very wrong and simple things I had done were all now evasive. I quickly bolted back to my comfort zone and good ol' 8.5 and got some work done. I sat on x3 for a while but because I follow this forum I started to read about new features that I really needed and so fired up x3e again. What I did was NOT TRY and record a serious project but just explore and experiment. It didn't take long and I all of a sudden 'got it'. It's only the GUI interface that they changed.

I learned I DON'T have to use Take Lanes etc. I'd say it was only a rainy afternoon and I was working 100% without issues in X3e. It's all how you set your preferences and with a few minor changes to your workflow after a week you'll soon forget 8.5 existed.I'm working on some tutorial videos for a few friends that are total first time computer DAW users so the they are dead simple to follow. They are border line boring if you already know these things. I start with what I believe is super important. First learn your way around the GUI.

I think the big mistake Newbies make is they try and jump right in and record and edit and they have no clue about what the softwares layout and features are. See my signature for links. You do have to use that online bandlab thing if you want to run the latest cakewalk because that's how you download and authorize it.That being said I think we are safe to assume that you're good to run your 8.5 for decades on if it suits your needs well. It's major advantage is that you will be able to install and authorize it offline each and every time you would need or want, unlike the new online bandlab thing that needs to be re-authorized online every 6 months or so.Mind you that there's another bandlab's online thingy, an online daw that is something different from cakewalk, and I suppose abacab was trying to point it out, but I had to re-read his post couple times myself to get his pointI understood the OP to mean online thingy, as in always. Using anything to download and authorize isn't the same.

You pretty much have to download and authorize pretty much most music software. Maybe I misunderstood.

Not to push the point further, I'm actually on the side of folks who are happy using older versions as I myself was exactly that person and stayed with 8.5 through the whole X series debacle. So I'm just saying this to be supportive and also encourage people to take the actual small amount of time it will take to learn how the new versions differ. It's a lot easier than you think if you just take certain steps.As I said I stayed with 8.5 and so when I finally ended up with X3e I fired it up and nothing was right! It was all very wrong and simple things I had done were all now evasive.

I quickly bolted back to my comfort zone and good ol' 8.5 and got some work done. I sat on x3 for a while but because I follow this forum I started to read about new features that I really needed and so fired up x3e again. What I did was NOT TRY and record a serious project but just explore and experiment. It didn't take long and I all of a sudden 'got it'. It's only the GUI interface that they changed.

I learned I DON'T have to use Take Lanes etc. I'd say it was only a rainy afternoon and I was working 100% without issues in X3e. It's all how you set your preferences and with a few minor changes to your workflow after a week you'll soon forget 8.5 existed.I'm working on some tutorial videos for a few friends that are total first time computer DAW users so the they are dead simple to follow.

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They are border line boring if you already know these things. I start with what I believe is super important. First learn your way around the GUI. I think the big mistake Newbies make is they try and jump right in and record and edit and they have no clue about what the softwares layout and features are. See my signature for links,As you know I was an early adopter of X1. I at first look did not like it. It was only after I read the manual and did a lot of research did I come to 'get it'.

I saw X1 as a new beginning that would lead to a great GUI. Admittedly X1 wa not as complete 8.5 was but it had a lot of room to grow. After they got the PC (Pro Channel) squared away it became a great DAW. With Platinum we were in a time of hectic improvements and additions. By this time everything that had been in 8.5 was also in Sonar. With the change in OS and going 64 bit.

Sonar was very much already able to take advantage of the new technology.I run Windows 10 Pro updated when ever it wants to. Is everything perfect? No but it is far and away better than it used to be.

Win 10 runs rings around previous Windows. Bandlab's Cakewalk runs rings around all the past Sonar versions.

They have made a massive effort to fix bugs and make it a very stable DAW.I think your post Cactus is one of the best on this subject because it speaks to those who are hesitant to embrace Cakewalk. 1974 Fender Jazz, (OEM), 1968 Ampeg ABB-1.other cats drool when they see my axes.and the sound.amazing! New stuff is cool, but there's something about a well beaten classic that stands on it's own even by modern standards. Audiophiles rave about turntables, analog sound.and there's a whole following of old technology fanatics. There's a reason why these tools are still out there.That analogy doesn't really hold up.

The difference is with very few exceptions (maybe out of issue plugins) software doesn't retain value with age. Software is always updated and improved upon. Despite CbB being a vastly bigger program than 8.5 it runs circles around it with even the same operations in 8.5 due to the major optimizations that have been added over the years. But yes user interface changes are something you have to get used to with any major software update.Unless there is nothing you need from a newer version and have no issues with what you are using its generally wise to keep your tools updated. That analogy doesn't really hold up. The difference is with very few exceptions (maybe out of issue plugins) software doesn't retain value with age. Software is always updated and improved upon.

Despite CbB being a vastly bigger program than 8.5 it runs circles around it with even the same operations in 8.5 due to the major optimizations that have been added over the years. But yes user interface changes are something you have to get used to with any major software update.Unless there is nothing you need from a newer version and have no issues with what you are using its generally wise to keep your tools updated.I don't agree to this point of view!I am sure that you and your team aim to improve Cakewalk (and you surely did, thanks). Probably most of the software engineers try to improve their products.But nevertheless new software versions are not always a blessing for the end users and there are many reasons why, e.g.:.New hardware or software is required (blown up code, dependency, too slow.).New bugs are introduced.Good features are dropped that you liked/need.Authorization gets complicated (online).The user interface has been worsened (e.g. See Windows, Firefox configuration).Side effects from new functions that you don't use.Compatibility issues (e.g.

To old use cases).For example online authorization: Of late I had lost my internet connection for more than 2 weeks because of a storm (happy New Year! Tree crashed the phone line). It happens here out in the woods from time to time and mobile net is worse than bad. So still I do not like that kind of 'modern' software that needs so much internet flow rate, more and more with even documentation only on the net.

Still using sonar 8.5 producer 32bit here as well, on my windows 10 64bit with x299 7820x intel. Been trying to get used to cakewalk bandlab but I like to work fast and I find that im not able to because im still learning the flow, where everythings at, ect. Things that slow me down or mess my flow up are little things like just selecting/deselecting clips, how click behaviors differ depending on what part of the clip you click on, even the midi piano pain throws me off somtimes, like when i click a note in and want to drag it earlier, the cursor like gets stuck and plays the note in rapid succession so i have to change tools to move the note. And if you click a long midi note in like a quarter note but i want to add some dotted eight notes on top of the blob its difficult click em over the blob, i have to shorten the blob to click a note in and then when they are all superimposed on eachother its just straight up difficult to visualize the seperation.

All minor hiccups that really just interrupt my train of thought in the middle of a creative flow, leaving me sticking with sonar 8.5. More power to ya, Joshua. Make music first, then worry about buttons and flashy lights.Don't know why you're running the 32-bit version of SONAR, though.

It would be completely painless to switch to the 64-bit version, and that'd open up a lot of sample libraries that just don't fit into the 32-bit memory space.Also know that Cakewalk by Bandlab can be installed alongside SONAR 8.5 and will open all your 8.5 projects. You could go ahead and throw it on your machine, play with it at your leisure, and maybe discover some nifty features you like. Of which there are many. When I went from Sonar 8.5 to Sonar X1 I was lost. I was upset because I was basically learning a whole new DAW. I didn't want to interrupt my workflow.

However, there were things in Sonar X1 that I knew would improve my workflow like the Pro channel, Sky light interface, Inspector and the Multidock. The control bar I wasn't as accepting to, but as time went on.I have learned to love it.What I did was finish projects in 8.5 and when I had time, opened up Sonar X1 and experimented.

This turned out to be a fortune but was a work in progress. You are running into the same situation right now. My advice is to watch some YouTube videos.When Sonar X1 there was some videos for it, but not like now. Most of my research came way of reading the manual and more importantly, this forum (the old one). When i click a note in and want to drag it earlier, the cursor like gets stuck and plays the note in rapid succession so i have to change tools to move the note.

At this point, there are so many useful new features and improvements (dozens of major ones, and hundreds of little ones) that it's hard to say what, if anything, is indispensible. But, off the top of my head, some of the biggies are:- Overall Stability and Performance- Plugin Support and Management- Navigation and View Management (Control Bar, Multidock, Inspector, Browser, Screensets, Lenses, Auto-zoom, Plugin Window Recycling, etc.)- ProChannel- Mix Recall- Patch Points/Aux Tracks- Take Lanes/Comping- PRV Track/Controller Pane Improvements- Ripple Editing- ARA and Region FX. I stayed with Sonar 7PE for a few years without any desire to change. The only thing that I hated in my workflow was the constant opening, closing and reconfiguring PRV, CV and other views.

I like to hop back and forth between edits of different parts of a project and this was always a bit inconvenient in the old version. I used to wish that there was such a feature as Screensets, allowing me to switch between different view with a single mouse click, which would have solved this problem for me. When I eventually discovered that there was such a feature in Sonar X2, I upgraded immediately.

When I went from Sonar 8.5 to Sonar X1 I was lost. I was upset because I was basically learning a whole new DAW. I didn't want to interrupt my workflow. However, there were things in Sonar X1 that I knew would improve my workflow like the Pro channel, Sky light interface, Inspector and the Multidock. The control bar I wasn't as accepting to, but as time went on.I have learned to love it.What I did was finish projects in 8.5 and when I had time, opened up Sonar X1 and experimented. This turned out to be a fortune but was a work in progress.

You are running into the same situation right now. My advice is to watch some YouTube videos.When Sonar X1 there was some videos for it, but not like now. Most of my research came way of reading the manual and more importantly, this forum (the old one).I remember those days well.

It was difficult for me. Not because of the new version but how so many were so upset with it. My very first impression was not a favorable one for X1. However, at the time I was able to get the manual and read it fully.

That helped greatly with how I could make the transition. I also had a bit of an insight as to what Cakewalk was trying to do. With that and the manual I could see where they were going with Skylight. It also meant that Sonar was now a very unique DAW in that with the Pro Channel one could potentially configure it in ways that had a impact on the sound of it.

True one could use normal VSTs for this but to me the difference was the lower CPU usage the PC offered. An important issue with me.At times it was a lonely place to be in favor of X1.

In the end it proved to many it was a good move on CW's part.An interesting point about users that were use to a particular workflow never was an issue for me. I had long ago moved from one DAW to another without much trouble thus workflow was not an important consideration for me. Heck, I learned Logic without a manual. It took them 3 months to send me the manual for it. In those days manuals needed to be printed and mailed. Mine for Logic Platinum 4 came with a 3 ring binder in a separate bundle.

BTW, that manual was awful. Logic did not have a Help menu or help popups at that time.

Later, I went with Cubase SX 1. To me it all was much the same as long as it did MIDI and audio I could figure it out. Sonar was a Cakewalk for me with Sonar X1 because I already knew Cakewalk's terms for things. Plus Cakewalks manuals were always top notch.Now we are in a new era with Bandlab taking good care of this great DAW.

I can't see any reason for not embracing it as now it is the best it has ever been. If only there'd been a heads up for the transition from sonar to X1 I think the reaction would have been more favourableThat was a shock wasn't it!! But for some reason I can not even say today, I just dropped everything I knew in the old Sonar and embraced the X series. And it took a while for me to re-learn things. But the main thing I noticed about my approach to the new X series was that I didn't try and make it do what the old Sonar did.

I just went with the new way. Much less frustration on my part.But others tried and tried to get X1 to do what 8.5 did, and stayed in constant frustration/anger really a lot longer than needed!So my advice to anyone taking the plunge from 8.5 to the new Cakkewalk, leave your old ways at the door!! And just jump on in, the water is fine (once you adjust!): ) Edited October 22 by Gremspelling. There are some tasks counter-intuitive, like deleting notes or lasso-selecting, now. Pulling up the context menu too.The one mistake I still find myself making in the PRV is expecting right-click to bring up note properties. But when I need to delete many individual notes, I find right-click to be very handy.

On the other hand, I adapted to lasso by dragging the right-click so easily that I soon found myself trying to do it in other applications or Windows Explorer, and getting unexpected results.